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Chuck & Michael Talk Investing

The Iron Capital Podcast is now Chuck & Michael Talk Investing (March 2025).

Welcome to Chuck & Michael Talk Investing, a monthly podcast where hosts Chuck Osborne and Michael Smith talk about investing and all things related in a way you can understand. Each episode explores a new topic anchored in current events that demystifies money management and investing for retirement. Chuck and Michael Talk Investing is presented by AssuredPartners Investment Advisors (APIA).


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • May 14, 2026
  • APIA Communications

Episode 26 – You’ve Been Lied to About Target Date Funds

Let’s explore the hidden sophistication in your retirement plan’s “simplest” option. Chuck and Michael welcome special guest Andrew Jacobs van Merlen, Portfolio Manager for T. Rowe Price Target Date Strategies, for a conversation about the evolution of the $5.2 trillion target date retirement fund industry.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • March 11, 2026
  • APIA

Episode 25 – Iran, AI, and the Dollar: What is Driving Emerging Markets?

Chuck and Michael host Richard Thies from Driehaus Capital Management. Together they explore the forces shaping emerging‑market (EM) performance, including Iran, the value of the dollar, and AI. Let’s explore.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • November 13, 2025
  • APIA Communications

Episode 24 – AI Speculation: Bubble or Boom?

Chuck and Michael delve into the intriguing world of market bubbles, exploring the signs, the psychological factors at play, and the lessons learned from past market dynamics. Are we in an AI bubble today, and what does that mean for investors?


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • October 14, 2025
  • APIA Communications

Episode 23 – Gold Rush 2.0: Commodity Supercycle?

Chuck and Michael are joined by special guest Wasif Latif, Co-Founder, President & CIO of Sarmaya Partners. Chuck, Michael and Wasif discuss the current trends in commodities and how commodities move in supercycles. They explore investment strategies in commodities, focusing on gold markets, which coincidentally hit a record high the day they recorded this podcast.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • September 10, 2025
  • APIA

Episode 22 – Jobs Crisis: Navigating Economic Slowdown

In this episode, Michael Smith and Chuck Osborne delve into the pressing issue of job creation amidst an economic slowdown. They discuss the recent job reports, highlighting the challenges of not meeting the historical benchmark of 200,000 jobs per month. The conversation explores the impact of immigration changes, tariffs, and the broader economic implications. Tune…

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    Episode 26 - You’ve Been Lied to About Target Date Funds
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    Let’s explore the hidden sophistication in your retirement plan’s “simplest” option. Chuck and Michael welcome special guest Andrew Jacobs van Merlen, Portfolio Manager for T. Rowe Price Target Date Strategies, for a conversation about the evolution of the $5.2 trillion target date retirement fund industry. They discuss how T. Rowe’s target date retirement funds have evolved from a simple product into a sophisticated team now allocating $585 billion in assets. It’s a common misconception that these funds are basic, when in reality they are far more sophisticated than anything anyone can do on their own.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to watch on our YouTube channel.

    ~Episode 26 – You’ve Been Lied to About Target Date Funds

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    Episode 25 - Iran, AI, and the Dollar: What is Driving Emerging Markets?
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    Chuck and Michael host Richard Thies from Driehaus Capital Management. Together they explore the forces shaping emerging‑market (EM) performance, including Iran, the value of the dollar, and AI. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to watch on our YouTube channel.

    ~Episode 25 – Iran, AI, and the Dollar: What is Driving Emerging Markets?

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    Episode 24 - AI Speculation: Bubble or Boom?
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    In this episode, hosts Chuck Osborne and Michael Smith delve into the intriguing world of market bubbles, drawing parallels between the late 90s tech boom and today’s AI-driven market. They explore the signs of a bubble, the psychological factors at play, and the lessons learned from past market dynamics. With insights into current valuations and the real-world implications of speculative investing, this discussion offers a comprehensive look at whether we’re in an AI bubble and what it means for investors today. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to watch on our YouTube channel.

    ~Episode 24 – AI Speculation: Bubble or Boom?

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    Episode 23 - Gold Rush 2.0: Commodity Supercycle?
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    In this episode, Chuck and Michael are joined by special guest Wasif Latif, who is Co-Founder, President & CIO of Sarmaya Partners. Chuck, Michael and Wasif discuss the current trends in commodities and how commodities move in supercycles. They explore investment strategies in commodities, focusing on gold markets, which coincidentally hit a record high – topping $4000 for the first time – the day they recorded this podcast.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to watch on our YouTube channel.

    Recorded October 7, 2025

    ~Episode 23 – Gold Rush 2.0: Commodity Supercycle?

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    Episode 22 - Jobs Crisis: Navigating Economic Slowdown
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    In this episode, Michael Smith and Chuck Osborne delve into the pressing issue of job creation amidst an economic slowdown. They discuss the recent job reports, highlighting the challenges of not meeting the historical benchmark of 200,000 jobs per month. The conversation explores the impact of immigration changes, tariffs, and the broader economic implications. Tune in to understand the complexities of the current job market and what it means for the future of the economy.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to watch on our YouTube channel.

    © 2025 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 22 – Jobs Crisis: Navigating Economic Slowdown