• Wall Street is in the business of generating fees for Wall Street. Period. It’s not in the business of getting good investment results. You have to be separate from Wall Street to do that.

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Chuck & Michael Talk Investing

The Iron Capital Podcast is now Chuck & Michael Talk Investing (March 2025).

Welcome to Chuck & Michael Talk Investing, a monthly podcast where hosts Chuck Osborne and Michael Smith talk about investing and all things related in a way you can understand. Each episode explores a new topic anchored in current events that demystifies money management and investing for retirement. Chuck and Michael Talk Investing is presented by AssuredPartners Investment Advisors (APIA).


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • July 17, 2025
  • APIA

Episode 20: In Defense of Freedom

In this episode, Chuck and Michael discuss the critical importance of liberty and economic freedom in the context of the current political landscape. Why is a money management podcast talking about freedom? They explore how freedom impacts markets, the misconceptions surrounding capitalism and socialism, and the critiques of capitalism as critiques of freedom. The conversation…


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • June 11, 2025
  • APIA

Episode 19: Locked Out: How Everyday Investors Lost Access to America’s Growth Engine

There’s a noticeable decline in the number of publicly traded companies in the U.S. despite significant economic growth. The number of companies hasn’t actually decreased; instead, more companies are now privately held. This shift has changed the investment landscape: fewer opportunities for public investors to access early-stage, high-growth companies.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • May 23, 2025
  • APIA

Episode 18: Drowning Out the Noise: How to Invest in Times of Volatility.

When you’re making investment decisions, make sure you’re not basing your decisions on big headlines. Chuck and Michael discuss how the wise investor makes investment decisions based on the actual value of the investments. Let’s explore.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • March 19, 2025
  • APIA

Episode 17: Tariffs Don’t Put America First

Why are international stocks outperforming U.S. stocks? Chuck and Michael discuss the economic impact of tariffs, the new trade war, and why the Trump administration’s ‘America First’ policies are not yielding positive results in the markets. Let’s explore.


  • Iron Capital Podcast
  • October 17, 2024
  • APIA

Episode 16: DIY Investing – Double Your Money: The Rule of 72

Is there really a “get-rich-quick scheme”? Chuck and Michael break down compound interest, the time value of money, and the Rule of 72. Let’s explore. This episode is Part 6 in our DIY Investing series, breaking down the steps one must take to get started with investing. Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share. YouTube – Click here to…

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    Episode 20: In Defense of Freedom
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    In this episode, Chuck and Michael discuss the critical importance of liberty and economic freedom in the context of the current political landscape. Why is a money management podcast talking about freedom? They explore how freedom impacts markets, the misconceptions surrounding capitalism and socialism, and the critiques of capitalism as critiques of freedom. The conversation delves into the housing crisis, healthcare costs, and education expenses, highlighting how government intervention has distorted these markets. They conclude by emphasizing the importance of understanding the true nature of economic freedom. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click Here to view on YouTube.

    © 2025 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 20: In Defense of Freedom

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    Episode 19: Locked Out: How Everyday Investors Lost Access to America’s Growth Engine
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    There’s a noticeable decline in the number of publicly traded companies in the U.S., despite significant economic growth. The number of companies hasn’t actually decreased; instead, more companies are now privately held. This shift has changed the investment landscape: fewer opportunities for public investors to access early-stage, high-growth companies.

    The Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (passed during the George W. Bush administration) was a major turning point. It was enacted in response to major corporate fraud scandals – Enron and WorldCom – which involved fraudulent accounting and hiding liabilities. Due to public and political pressure, Congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley to tighten corporate financial reporting rules. However, this law significantly increased the cost and complexity of going public.

    From our point of view, we advocate for thoughtful regulatory reform, ideally starting with repealing Sarbanes-Oxley, to unlock economic growth and restore access for everyday investors. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click Here to view on our YouTube channel:

    © 2025 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 19: Locked Out: How Everyday Investors Lost Access to America’s Growth Engine

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    Episode 18: Drowning Out the Noise: How to Invest in Times of Volatility.
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    When you’re making investment decisions, make sure you’re not basing your decisions on big headlines. Chuck and Michael discuss how the wise investor makes investment decisions based on the actual value of the investments. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    Click here to view on our YouTube Channel

    © 2025 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 18: Drowning Out the Noise: How to Invest in Times of Volatility.

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    Episode 17: Tariffs Don't Put America First
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    Why are international stocks outperforming U.S. stocks? Chuck and Michael discuss the economic impact of tariffs, the new trade war, and why the Trump administration’s ‘America First’ policies are not yielding positive results in the markets. Let’s explore.

    Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    For additional context on tariffs read our February Insight, “Can’t Fight The Law.

    YouTube – Click here to watch the video version:

    © 2025 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 17: Tariffs Don’t Put America First

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    Episode 16: DIY Investing - Double Your Money: The Rule of 72
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    Is there really a “get-rich-quick scheme”? Chuck and Michael break down compound interest, the time value of money, and the Rule of 72. Let’s explore.

    This episode is Part 6 in our DIY Investing series, breaking down the steps one must take to get started with investing. Please watch, listen, like, subscribe, and share.

    YouTube – Click here to watch the video version:

    Recorded August 15, 2024
    © 2024 AssuredPartners Investment Advisors, LLC dba Iron Capital Advisors

    ~Episode 16: DIY Investing – Double Your Money: The Rule of 72